[address-policy-wg] followup on RIPE 59: feedback from the RS department

Hi APWG,

at the last RIPE meeting in Amsterdam, I asked the RIPE NCC RS department
to provide feedback to us regarding the day-to-day working with our
policies.  We make the policies, but we don't really know how well they
work (especially for the great mass of LIRs that don't participate in 
the policy-making process) unless we get feedback.

Alex Le Heux from the RIPE NCC volunteered, and reported the top three
issues that cause the most questions and discussion between RS and the
LIRs requesting resources.

See here for the details:

   http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-59/presentations/leheux-rough-edges-of-policies.pdf

The three issues were:

 - differences between IPv4 and IPv6 policy

 - interpretation of the AS number policy

 - interpretation and wording of the 80% rule


At the meeting, we discussed only one of these (the interpretation of
the AS number policy, see page 10-16 in the PDF), because we ran out of 
time - and instead of rushing all three items, the WG chairs decided to 
focus on one, and bring up the other two on the list.

Regarding the interpretation of the AS number policy, feedback from
the audience in the room (plus comments in the hallways) was quite clear -
everybody who voiced their opinion argued that a LIR that can document
multiple distinct routing policies is entitled to multiple AS numbers,
even if it's the same organization running all of the network(s).  So the
Registration Services department was asked to accept multiple AS requests
for the same organization if an individual unique routing policy can be 
documented.


For details of this discussion, please see the APWG R59 minutes:

   http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/address-policy/r59-minutes.html


Next steps: the WG chairs will bring up the other two items to the
AWPG mailing list in the next days.   We need to get feedback from the
community on the intent and interpretation of the current policy, and
if the result is that the current policy is not really what the community
wants, get the necessary changes under way.

regards,

Gert Doering,
	APWG Chair

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