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Florian Frotzler
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Thu Dec 3 06:12:07 CET 2009
2009/12/2 David Conrad <drc at virtualized.org>: > On Dec 2, 2009, at 9:39 AM, Florian Frotzler wrote: >> If I take a look at the latest CIDR report, we have about 33k different AS >> numbers in the current routing table. Assuming that 1 AS = 1 LIR, just for >> simplicity, can someone explain me why the business models could ever change >> in the next 30 to 60 years that we will have 2 million LIRs? > > As I said in the message you top-posted on: > > "Given the proliferation of PI allocation policies and the likelihood > (at least in my mind) of increased dependence on IP connectivity as a basic > service implying less tolerance for even momentary outages resulting in > increased demand for multi-homing, it is unclear to me that the current > model will hold." > > Just one example. Hard to predict what will happen in 30 to 60 years. 30 years ago the Internet as we know it didn't exist. Seems a bit questionable to me to allocate the IPv6 equivalent of class As when we haven't the slightest idea how things will evolve and we have experience in blowing through an "inconceivably large address space". I don't know what will be in 30 years either but your statement does not contain any argument why I should believe that the number of LIRs will explode. >> And even if we >> have 2.000.000 LIRs in 2070, I am quite sure IETF would open a new FP range >> at that time for another 2.000.000 LIRs without questioning anything. > > "Without questioning"? Have you actually participated in the IETF? This was maybe a little bit of a bad wording, it was more meant as a kind of figure of speech. > Regards, > -drc Florian
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