This archive is retained to ensure existing URLs remain functional. It will not contain any emails sent to this mailing list after July 1, 2024. For all messages, including those sent before and after this date, please visit the new location of the archive at https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/[email protected]/
[address-policy-wg] IPv6 allocations for 6RD
- Previous message (by thread): [address-policy-wg] IPv6 allocations for 6RD
- Next message (by thread): [address-policy-wg] IPv6 allocations for 6RD
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
michael.dillon at bt.com
michael.dillon at bt.com
Tue Dec 1 11:42:47 CET 2009
> > That's not the point. A /60 assignment is wrong. If software > > developers and equipment vendors get the idea that /60 is > normal, then > > they will embed that assumption in their products and it > will make the > > transition from 6RD to native v6 more difficult. > > You keep repeating this but which document or standard says > /60 is wrong ? RFC 3177 says that ISPs should assign a /48 to every site except in the case of very large subscribers. Geoff Huston did a paper some time ago that demonstrated a slim possibility of running out of IPv6 addresses using /48 everywhere and proposed a couple of small changes, one to the HD ratio, and dropping to /56 assignments for private residences. Some RIRs have adopted this into policy, but regardless of whether or not it is in RIPE policy, the /56 for private residences is still good practice and is being tracked by vendors. > > There is no need to make customer assignments smaller than /56. > > > But why ? I can imagine /60 is enough for Joe the plumber > even if sensor networks would take off... Because the whole point of giving sites a /48 is to ensure that they have more than enough so that 99% of them will never ever have to expand beyond /48. This business of /64, /48 and /32 quasi-classful boundaries is meant to stop the network architecture reshuffle that IPv4 forced on people whose networks were growing. There is a competition law aspect to this too. If everyone assigns their customers a /48 (or a /56 for private residences) then customers will be able to move to another ISP (competition) without restructuring their network. It will be a simple prefix change. This is one of the features of IPv6 to make renumbering easier. If an ISP assigns their customers /60 blocks then they are at risk that some of those customers could sue them under the competition laws because the /60 becomes an artificial barrier to changing ISPs. There just isn't any technical requirement to assign customers less than a /56 prefix. Even if RIPE policy does not yet mention /56 prefixes, they are still a good practice based on the findings of Geoff Huston. --Michael Dillon
- Previous message (by thread): [address-policy-wg] IPv6 allocations for 6RD
- Next message (by thread): [address-policy-wg] IPv6 allocations for 6RD
Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]