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[BULK] Re: [address-policy-wg] 2007-08 New Draft Document Published (Enabling Methods for Reallocation of IPv4 Resources)
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michael.dillon at bt.com
michael.dillon at bt.com
Thu Mar 20 12:30:44 CET 2008
> It doesn't. IP addresses are still used to number things on > the Internet. Right now IP address allocations/assignments are tied to a hierarchy with RIPE (or another RIR) at its root. RIPE gives blocks to LIRs who give blocks to end users. When an end user or LIR no longer needs the block, it is returned back up the hierarchy. This proposal changes that and allows address block holders to transfer them to some other organization. This makes addresses more like physical property which is passed from one person to another without any prior relationships. And I believe that it is inevitable that once this is allowed, transfers will be made without following RIPE rules. If the recipient runs into difficulty in using their new addresses and perceives RIPE to be the problem, then lawsuits will be raised against RIPE for interfering in the trading of addresses. I know that the proposal does not discuss selling addresses like property, however this RIPE proposal is just one of several which are before APNIC and ARIN. The people who have originated the ideas behind this proposal, have talked about an open IP address market for several years. So even though this proposal is only a first step, and does not fully create an open IP address trading market, I believe that it is important to consider where this may lead, before accepting the proposal. If, like me, you do not want to go all the way towards an open market for buying and selling IP addresses, then you might want to make the same decision as I have made, and oppose this proposal as unneccessary. I have no doubt that my company, and many others, will return their unused IPv4 allocations to RIPE when the IPv6 rollout makes these IPv4 addresses unneccessary. To do otherwise would pose a significant risk of legal action because it would constitute restraint of trade, i.e. punishing smaller competitors by witholding IPv4 addresses that those competitors would use. I don't believe that my company, or most of the other large European telecoms companies, would see any significant incentive in being able to charge a fee for transfering an IPv4 allocation to a 3rd party. The real incentive is to avoid the risk of regulatory and legal action by returning the unneeded resources, and competing based on the quality of our services. I believe that this incentive has a much larger financial impact than any trading system could possibly have, to the extent that I expect larger ISPs to bend over backwards to help IPv4-dependent ISPs use the inevitably small block sizes that will be available. I do NOT speak for the ETNO, however I am aware that the large European telecoms companies who form ETNO, have come to a consensus that the development of a market for IP addresses whould be discouraged. Anyone who was at RIPE 55 will have seen this presentation: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-55/presentations/mcfadden-etno.pd f I believe that allowing the transfer of allocation directly between LIRs is a step in development of a market for IP addresses, and for this reason we should reject the proposal entirely. Currently RIPE plays a unique and trusted role in the area of IP address management, where companies who compete vigorously in the marketplace can fairly and openly cooperate with each other, and with non-comercial users of the resource (IP addresses) on which their networks depend. We trust RIPE. There is no need to enable transfers that do not have RIPE as an intermediary. In particular, as IPv4 exhaustion begins to pinch us, it is highly likely that there will be two or more organizations that want to receive the free address block. We don't want to be making decisions on who receives the addresses that we free up. We would rather return them to RIPE and have those decisions made impartially. --Michael Dillon
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