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[address-policy-wg] Enabling Methods for Reallocation of IPv4 Resources
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Tom Vest
tvest at pch.net
Wed Mar 12 00:00:04 CET 2008
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mar 11, 2008, at 6:49 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > michael.dillon at bt.com wrote: > [..] >> My knowledge of the Germanic languages is not good enough to >> really make >> sense of the Dutch legislation. I wonder if someone who speaks >> Dutch, or >> who is a native speaker of German or a Scandinavian language, >> could have >> a look at the text of the Dutch law here >> <http://www.st-ab.nl/wetten/ >> 0490_Wet_financiele_dienstverlening_Wfd.htm> > > "Vervallen m.i.v. 1 januari 2007" > > aka > > "Expired per the 1st of Januari 2007" > > The following one is apparently still valid though: > http://www.st-ab.nl/wetten/1064_Wet_op_het_financieel_toezicht_Wft.htm > > There is no mention at all about virtual property or the 'owning' > of numbers though. A zipcode is no property, nor is a bankaccount > number etc. > > We have this IANA&RIR system in place and the only reason that it > works is that the largest amount of ISP's who are on this thing > that we call "The Internet" find that the IP numbers they are > giving out are the ones they use. Anybody though can simply take > whatever number they want and given that enough ISPs start talking > to it, that will simply work, but they have to convince the largest > amount to do that though. > > A number can't be a property --> there is nothing that law can do > against handling in IP addresses. Regardless of what one thinks about the first proposition, the second does not follow. There are a number of countries in which certain uses of certain numbers is forbidden, and punishable under law. TV > Also note that that 'trading' in IP addresses and other resources > already happens for a long long time, eg when company A buys > company B solely for the addresses and ASN's etc etc. > > Nice example from ebay: > http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/evidence.lasso?rokso_id=ROK2594 > > Greets, > Jeroen > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFH1w70UHTO4sHEFsERAmHUAKCI/WRrEatEd57LIkeAOLgWg8BZ9wCfWCHy gjVrzy+Qi1fVaVr5QYHlCvM= =ty3U -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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