[address-policy-wg] Re: Ownerless PI Revokation, was Re: [address-policy-wg] Revised2007-01...

Peter and all

Peter Galbavy wrote:

> Jeffrey A. Williams wrote:
> > Yes and a not so good policy.
> >
> An excellent policy, actually. Most "excellent" policies are formulates
> before greed and commercial interests get a hold; See US Declaration of
> Independence, early RIPE policies and most RFCs before the IETF happened.

  Commercial interests already have a hold, and were sense day one
eventually going to get a hold.  Ergo why this policy was not well
thought out.  Sorry to disagree here, but I am compeled to do so
on practical grounds.

>
>
> >
> >   Peters discription is however not complete, as we now know, and
> > as many have contended sence day 1, was never intended as he
> > discribes it.
> >
> >
> Er, actually in this context it is and was and hopefully will be. I
> think I was hanging around in the background when many of these were
> formulated; not contributing, but drinking the coffee at least. As
> Michael says the "public" Internet is not completely what the original
> RFC authors had in mind.

  Mixing metaphors here it seems.

>
> >
> >   Exactly right and therefore presupposes that private PI or PA space
> > wheather public or not are in any routing scheme may or may not reflect
> > the public internet routing policy which is just a fact of the real world.
> >
> Not that simple and probably not true. You are conflating routing
> between networks (internetworking) and this supposed public
> infrastructure where a large proportion of the address space is visible
> in some form. They are not the same and how will you decide who's policy
> viewpoint is the right one ? Let me guess, a network with a routing
> policy and a viewpoint you agree with ?

  Routing and internetworking are intertwined and have to some degree
for a very long time now.  More in depth is coming wheather or not it
is, or is not wise.  It's also not a metter if I agree or not, it is a matter
of if the majority or providers or various sorts do.

>
>
> Peter

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