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[address-policy-wg] "Dirty" recycled network assigned
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Jeffrey A. Williams
jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
Thu Jan 17 04:19:13 CET 2008
Max and all, Maybe sue AOL and Yahoo? Why not, everyone else is? Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" - Abraham Lincoln "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by P: i.e., whether B is less than PL." United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] =============================================================== Updated 1/26/04 CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC. ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com My Phone: 214-244-4827 Max Tulyev wrote: > David, > > is there real things I can do? > > Semi-real is 5. But the problem is much more deep. Some people make > blacklisting by firewall rules based on data years old. Some blacklists > (my client said about yahoo and aol) just have no policy to delist a > network, and ignore requests. > > David Conrad wrote: > > An "interesting" (in sort of the way the Ebola virus is "interesting") > > problem that is going to become much more common as we start reallocating > > previously allocated or otherwise flagged blocks. Leo Vegoda has done a > > couple of presentations on this. > > > > Just imagine the fun folks who are going to get prefixes out of 1.0.0.0/8 > > are going to have. > > > > Options I can think of: > > > > 1) Get everybody to transition to IPv6 (um, yeah). > > 2) Get all the folks who are running RBLs/DUNs to update their lists when > > address status changes (slightly more realistic than (1)). > > 3) Get everybody to use reputation services like > > http://www.karmasphere.com/, et al. (no, I'm not affiliated with them) > > 4) Get RPKI deployed to reduce the need for black list services (um, yeah.) > > 5) Get the folks who win the draw on prefixes to go around to every black > > list service themselves (as they discover them) and convince the operator of > > that list (somehow) to remove them (the default). > > > > No good answers I'm aware of... > > > > Regards, > > -drc > > > > On 1/16/08 9:28 AM, "Max Tulyev" <president at ukraine.su> wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I just got an assignment for my client (large PI block). But this block > >> is listed in all DNS RBLs and DUN lists, as it was in use till Oct'07 as > >> dynamic DHCP pool of other big ISP. > >> > >> So my client says they can't use this network, because mail service is > >> blocked. > >> > >> RIPE rejected my request to change this network to another one: "As we > >> do understand how unfortunate this is for **********, there is nothing > >> we can do about prefixes that appear on so called black lists." > >> > >> How can I solve this? > > > > > > -- > WBR, > Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253 at FIDO)
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