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[address-policy-wg] 2007-01 Last Call for Comments(Direct Internet Resource Assignments to End Users from the RIPE NCC)
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Jeroen Massar
jeroen at unfix.org
Tue Apr 8 17:27:55 CEST 2008
Sander Steffann wrote: [..] >> i will give you 10000 bucks and during 100 years it will not what your >> problem, what the block became. > > It still remains a problem. This proposal is not about the money. It is > about responsible stewardship of internet resources. The way provider > independent resources are handled now it is impossible to follow what is > happening to those resources. Resources that are not in use anymore are > lost because there is no way to check this, while other organisations > might need those resources. > > Policy proposal 2007-01 was introduced to solve this problem. With a > contract between an LIR (or RIPE NCC) and the end user, we can follow > the resource. We could check if it is still in use, if the usage still > complies with the policies, etc. All the resources RIR's provide though have amongst others the following two properties: a) no guarantee about the resources uniqueness b) no guarantee that the resource can be used everywhere And with this proposal another one comes along: c) when one has a resource, there is no way to 'block' one from using it even after no payment or voiding/expiry of contract. Thus even if there is a contract and some cash involved, the moment that the contract is not valid any more and/or the cash is not paid anymore, the resource can still be used, because of a). Domain Registries are really delegating, without that link from the TLD one doesn't have a domain, it simply doesn't function (unless one hijacks a rather large set of DNS servers around the world :) For the RIR's though, there is currently not a real way to actually enforce the contract or the payment, let alone that when the data is invalid, that one can enforce that. This is good in one way (the whole idea of the Internet) but bad in the way Then again, one can today already simply take a prefix and simply use it. It is at up to the ISP's who carry that prefix to accept it or not. There are a couple of proposals that might (might as when ISPs want to carry something they can and will do so) help enforce this a little bit but require full cooperation: - (S-)BGP(-S) - Route Objects - etc But as the first is nearly unused that doesn't work. The second one is used, but unfortunately not by the non-RIPE membership and it won't provide full lockdown. The only 'power' that a RIR has and can mostly enforce (unless an ISP hijacks a resource and forces/gets others to accept it) though is something they do on a daily basis: provide new resources. As such, when for a resource under this, or another, policy, the contract expired or the fees are not properly paid, but the resource is kept in use, the RIR could block any new allocations to requesters who do still allow the expired resource to exist and be used. Detection of which can be done fully automated with RIS and similar tools at thus virtually no additional cost. The RIR can then at least ask the requester to contact their neighboring ISP to stop using an expired resource. This is playing cop a bit though, which is something that the RIRs should avoid, but, in this case might be one of the few ways to resolve the issue where someone sets up a contract one year and then simply ignores it for the rest of their lives while keeping the use of the resource. The contract though is legal, thus it might be possible to also let the RIR go to court for these things. Greets, Jeroen -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 187 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: </ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/attachments/20080408/1950f7b1/attachment.sig>
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