[address-policy-wg] RE: [afripv6-discuss] Re: [ppml] How to get a IPv6 /32 the cheap way: go to AFRINIC

I have to agree with Jeroen on this one...

How does AfriNIC qualify for more than any other organization getting P.I
Space.

If we consider that AfriNIC is *NOT* an LIR (you cant be an LIR *and* an
RIR?) then we have to consider the space provider independent. 

If so, the /32 is a violation of the P.I policy found at
http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/afpol-v6200701.htm

To quote the policy point (3):

* The intial provider independent assignment size to an end-site should be a
/48, or a shorter prefix if the end-site can justify it.

As Jeroen says, there needs to be justification.

Just my 2c

Andrew Alston
TENET - Chief Technology Officer



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[mailto:afripv6-discuss-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET
MARTINEZ
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:06 PM
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Subject: [afripv6-discuss] Re: [ppml] How to get a IPv6 /32 the cheap way:
go to AFRINIC

Jeroen,

This is just ridiculous.

All the RIRs have their own /32 for their internal usage.

Regards,
Jordi




> De: Jeroen Massar <jeroen at unfix.org>
> Organización: Unfix
> Responder a: <ppml-bounces at arin.net>
> Fecha: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:32:59 +0100
> Para: ARIN Address Policy <ppml at arin.net>, RIPE Address Policy
> <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>, AFRNIC IPv6 <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>,
APNIC
> IPv6 <global-v6 at lists.apnic.net>
> Asunto: [ppml] How to get a IPv6 /32 the cheap way: go to AFRINIC
> 
> [*full rant mode*]
> 
> My eye just fell on a very strange new allocation, apparently made under
some
> new rules in the AFRINIC region which seem to be very wasteful and very
out of
> sync with the rest of the world who are at least thinking a bit about
address
> conservation instead of just blowing address space like there is no
tomorrow:
> 
> http://www.afrinic.net/docs/policies/afpol-v6200407-000.htm#5 details:
> 8<--------------
> 5.1.1. Initial allocation criteria
> To qualify for an initial allocation of IPv6 address space, an
organization
> must:
> a) be an LIR;
> b) not be an end site;
> c) show a detailed plan to provide IPv6 connectivity to organizations in
the
> AfriNIC region.
> d) show a reasonable plan for making /48 IPv6 assignments to end sites in
the
> AfriNIC region within twelve months. The LIR should also plan to announce
the
> allocation as a single aggregated block in the inter-domain routing system
> within twelve months.
> 
> 5.1.2. Initial allocation size
> 
> Organizations that meet the initial allocation criteria are eligible to
> receive a minimum allocation of /32.
> ---------------------------------------------->8
> 
> Wow, so you make a new 'company' in 911 land and say "I am going to
allocate a
> single /48" and you get a FULL /32 even when you will never ever ever use
it
> or even are going to think about using it?
> 
> The first "organization" which is using this to waste space seems to be:
> 
> inet6num:       2001:42d0::/32
> netname:        AfriNIC-IPv6-1
> descr:          AfriNIC
> descr:          RIR
> country:        MU
> 
> Gee, the RIR itself. How many people are using the AFRINIC network? 10-50?
Are
> they really *ever* going to need more than a /48? Are they ever going to
have
> a need for 65536 of those /48's?
> 
> Really this is just a waste of address space. Yes there is "enough", but
being
> sooo obviously wasteful just to be able to have a nice slot in the routing
> tables is a bit over done.
> 
> 
> I hope that the other regions take this in mind too when (re)considering
their
>  address policies.
> 
> Giving out /48's or even a /40 to an organization that is in-effect an
> end-site I can understand, especially when they can justify the need for
that
> amount of address space. But giving /32's to every single endsite that
simply
> asks for it is very very very far fetched. They will not even ever fill up
a
> /40 of address space even if they would have two sites (read: offices) in
> every country in Africa, let alone 65536 sites. Such a waste.
> 
> Funnily later in the above document they point to HD ratios. What point is
> that when the waste is already happened?
> 
> 
> RIR's should be giving out address space based on "need" and that need
must
> justified, giving out /32's as "those fit in the routing slots" is a
really
> really bad idea.
> 
> In short: if you want a nice /32 without issues: setup a small shop in
Africa
> and presto!
> 
> Greets,
>  Jeroen
> 
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