[address-policy-wg] Just say *NO* to PI space -- or how to make it less destructive

On Monday 24 April 2006 09:28, Gert Doering wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 09:19:18AM +0200, Marc van Selm wrote:
> > Sorry I can't agree with you there. Organizations that really need this
> > are generally very professional (ok not always but they they can hire a
> > professional for them) and many times much larger than some ISPs. I think
> > it is unfair to say that a non-ISP business is per definition not able to
> > handle routing networks. I have just seen the 2nd fully uncordinated, but
> > promissed to be smooth, transition of network connectivity by a large ISP
> > in NL so I guess we all make mistakes. Could we leave emotions and
> > kingdoms out of the discussion and focus on the real issue of a large
> > network that happens not to be an ISP that needs solid connectivity to
> > the net and has a large world-wide internal network managed by
> > professionals....
>
> This is actually what I see as the major point in the "PI policy" - figure
> out who really "needs" it -- and I can agree that there are many networks
> that would qualify, "being large enough, competent enough, and important[1]
> enough".
>
> Speaking as a network operator (not as WG co-chair) I would be fairly
> unhappy with a PI policy that permits "about anyone" to get PI - because
> PI is very unbalanced regarding "who benefits, and who pays for it".

True you have a good point here that is worth exploring.

So how do we seperate then the "about anyone" from "those that need". I 
personally do not think the community should judge than one has a need and 
try to cast that in stone in some form of policy. But one could demand a 
sound justication in the request for PI that describes why PI is 
vital/important. This is to be judged by the RIR. Would adjusting the policy 
in that direction make sense? I know that this will take resourses of the RIR 
but I think it is fair that the requester should pay for that.

Marc van Selm
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