[address-policy-wg] 2005-08 New Policy Proposal

Hi,

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 11:44:32AM +0100, Michael.Dillon at btradianz.com wrote:
> > The answer is "the RIPE policies have no answers how to do things that
> > are in violation of the RIPE policies" - and assigning 10 IPv6 addresses 
> 
> > is against the policy.
> 
> Assigning 10 IPv6 addresses is *NOT* against RIPE policy!

Please read the policy documents.  There is no provisioning for assignment
of 

> It may come as a surprise to those of you who do not speak
> English as a native language, but the word "assign" is a
> synonym of the word "allocate" and both have a very general
> meaning of distributing something to multiple recipients.
> The fact that RIR policies use these synonyms in specific and
> distinct ways does not change the fact that anyone who learns
> English as a language of communication will learn that these
> two words mean the same thing and can be substituted for one
> another.

It may come as a surprise to you, but it's not so unsual to assign
very specific meanings to certain terms when being used in certain
professional environments.  The most important point is to define
exactly what the word specifies, and follow the official definitions
*of this profession* when discussing details.

You can't go to a lawyer either and argue about the fact that some
generic terms have different meanings in a lawmaking context.  That's
the way language works.

> Even worse (Horrors!) these two words can be used in business
> outside of the context of the RIRs. ISPs can allocate circuit
> bandwidth to customers, assign them to router ports, distribute
> IP addresses to them, etc.

Which has nothing to do whatsoever with the specific and precisely 
defined words "assignment" an "allocation" in the context IP address 
distribution.

> Inside the business he can certainly assign 10 addresses to
> his customer, however the very fact that he is choosing to
> allocate the customer 10 addresses shows that he is doing 
> a private act. 

Please re-read the policy documents.  The IP address distribution 
policies very specifically specify the rules how address distribution
to 3rd parties are to be done, and every LIR signs a document that states
"yes, we will follow all agreed-upon policies and procedures".

Gert Doering
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