[address-policy-wg] Re: [ipv6-wg] Re: Andre's guide to fix IPv6

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On 26 nov 2005, at 16.00, Florian Weimer wrote:

>
>>> 2. Drop the Flow Label and Next Header fields from the IPv6 header.
>>
>> Next Header is required or how else do you know what follows the IPv6
>> header? Or do you only want to do TCP? What about UDP,SCTP and many
>> other headers (for IPv6 in IPv6, IPv4 in IPv6, IPSEC etc).
>
> IPv6 was designed for ACL-free software forwarding.  This is not what
> we need today.  Real routers must be able to access some layer 4
> information.
>
> A better header would do away with any layer 3 options or option
> replacement.  It would consist of 7 64-bit words.  The first word
> contains the IP protocol version number, a hop counter (not a TTL,
> because it can be spoofed), and a bidirectional next-layer protocol
> identifier (protocol number plus some optional data that is indepedent
> of the direction of the packet flow and constant for a given
> "connection").  You can include some bits for QoS if you want, but I'm
> not sure if this makes sense.  This is the first word.
>
> After that, the source and destination address follow (two words
> each).  The remaining two remaining words are the next-layer source
> and destination address identifier (think port number, but you can put
> some additional cookie in there to make blind spoofing harder).
>
> In order to create a reflexive ACL entry, a router would zap the
> header flags and the hop count (which are ignored during matching
> anyway) and swap the source and destination addresses.  No more
> upgrades so that you can filter still-a-bit=obscure protocols such as
> SCTP.
>
> Of course, a discussion about header layout is a bit pointless.  But
> it is still a bit unfortunate that a protocol header explicitly
> designed for efficient forwarding does not come anywhere near that
> goal.

So AFAIK the state of the art routers does 40G line-rate deep-packet  
inspection with any pattern matching. So remind me again what the  
problem is? Price? Sure, that is a question of demand and volume  
production...

When MPLS was new I remember being told by vendors that it was the  
only way we could forward IPv4 at 10G line-rate. Go figure.

- kurtis -