[address-policy-wg] Re: Re: a consensus, about what?

On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 11:02:57AM -0800, David Kessens wrote:
> The discussion should focus on who can get an IP address space
> allocation from the RIR and how large.

And at which price.

It's ridiculous to ask the same price from someone who does a single
request for IP space and ~never come back, and from someone who starts
as a real LIR (you [not you personally] remember? Local Internet
REGISTRY!) which does subassigments to hundreds of end users, have those
requests validated by NCC hostmasters, take part in LIR trainings etc.
pp.

You have an AS and do multihome? Pay a small one-time fee (reg effort)
and small annual fee (to verify that you still do exist care for the
prefix to stay registered, and to cover costs for the database entries
for your prefix) and be done with it.[1]

But that would be too simple, too fair, too non-discriminating, offer
too much independency to mere mortal entities.

All those folks who question the right of ASses (AUTONOMOUS systems) to
have their own IP space and a routing table slot (in lieu of a better,
sufficiently!capable replacement architecture) for technical reasons
("but our routers will break!") should ask themselves one question: are
YOU ready to return YOUR prefix(es) because you are NOT in the routing
tier 1 club? If not, SHUT UP. Thanks. All but the real routing Tier 1s
don't have any TECHNICAL need to announce their own allocations. All
other non-upstream-free ISPs only have ECONOMIC reasons to do so. You
want to tell others that they are not entitled to that as well?
Interesting. In which way are you special?

I hereby ask anyone who publicly denies the right for PI to others to
explain why THEY are entitled to PI themselves (PA is as David correctly
explained nothing else than PI for ISPs, with the allowance to use parts
of the address space for customers). And check twice that you aren't
deploying double standards and split tongue.


Best regards,
Daniel

[1] Perhaps I'll be annoyed enough by this topic over the christmas/new
year's holidays to draft something up... but with the current policy
finding process I see almost no chance to get the so-call "consensus"
[of a few vocal folks], so it's prolly just wasted time. All those
enterprises, non-commercial organizations and clubs who want/need PI
aren't really represesented here.

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