[address-policy-wg] IPv6 Policy Clarification - Initial allocation criteria "d)"

Hi Marcus,

On Monday 21 June 2004 20:46, Marcus Gerdon wrote:
> I had *no* trouble with the policy.
> Currently (!) nobody asks for IPv6 directly, but those customers,
> espicially bussiness customers, we offered routing ipv6 space to get them
> accustomed to v6 were mostly quite happy with this service. And that
> although they're informed it's still run in a test network (regarding our
> infrastructure).

We've actually been asked (with the understanding that it wasn't going to be a 
production rollout anytime soon. There is an actual drive towards ipv6 
underway in Ireland - largely owing to heanet's efforts)

> There's /16's spliit up to an endless number of /23,/24 ... Tkae a look at
> Gert's email footer ... THAT's a problem. Not to say we're perfect - no
> way. We ourselves have announced smaller prefixes out of space assigned to
> other lir's each for many months only for customers UNWILLING to renumber
> in appropriate time or to keep their old link long enough.

Now this is hardly the fault of the allocation/assignment policies. If you are 
allocated a /16 and then announce it as /24s what can the RIR do about it? 

> So if you're going to deploy IPv6, just write a request. If it's serious
> and understandable, I'd be surprised if a hostmaster reject it when you
> count a /40 for your infrastructre or only get a sum of 180 /48. If the
> plan itself is a thing to understand.

The best laid plans of mice and men... As others here have pointed out, we 
can't yet say where the market is going with ipv6. Most plans we make today 
are likely to be rubbish tomorrow...

> ehhmm... sorry Sascha .... not meant to be rude, just wondered ...
>
> A LIR without own network and ONE uplink / provider ? What services do you
> provide ? Your RIPE data (as far as I found on-the-fly- look like a company
> paying membership fee for their PI.

Now, *that* i could consider rude ;) Where do you get the uplink from, we're 
not even announcing the route yet (still waiting for upstream #1 to connect 
their end) 
We're only just starting and suffered some delays. Look again towards the end 
of the year and things will look much different.  

> Before answering it: I'm not going to offend you ... but with this, you
> *really* should take IPv6 from your upstream.

For various reasons, this is not *really* an option.

rgds,
Sascha Luck
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