[address-policy-wg] IPv6 Policy Clarification - Initial allocation criteria "c)"

In IPv6 this could happen in the future, is true that may be not with LIRs, but with big end customers, but this big end customers will sooner or later claim for PI and sooner or later we should provide a solution for that.

I think APNIC is working in something similar to "intermittently disconnected networks", but may be I'm wrong.

Anyway the point probably is, as indicated in my previous email, to facilitate the allocations and not being restrictive regarding time or number of customers, but more looking at the real market trends. Difficult to measure ? not really if we look to the average situation and then we take a non-drastic approach, at least not initially with those not announcing their prefix even when the majority of the market is already doing so. They will lose the customers and probably kill themselves ... so if they are smart will not do so.

Regards,
Jordi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gert Doering" <gert at space.net>
To: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
Cc: <address-policy-wg at ripe.net>
Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: [address-policy-wg] IPv6 Policy Clarification - Initial allocation criteria "c)"


> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 01:05:19PM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> > In my opinion, closed networks today, could be connected tomorrow, and 
> > consequently advertised, so why exclude them ?
> 
> A *LIR* usually doesn't (purposely) change back and forward from 
> "operating a non-public network" and "being connected to the Internet".
> 
> End-user networks do, but the policy isn't about end-users anyway - what
> end-users do depends on their contractual relation to the LIR of their
> choice and trust.  If they have no LIR available, and are not connected
> to the Internet, they can use non-publically-routed-global-unique IPv6 
> space (IIRC it was Geoff Houston's draft).
> 
> > Excluding them will mean that if a network is disconnected, so no advertised, even by accident, they could miss the right for that allocation ?
> 
> Nobody will take an allocation away just because your core-router died.
> 
> OTOH, if someone receives an allocation and it's not visible after two
> years (or any other reasonable time), one might start asking questions.
> 
> Gert Doering
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