[address-policy-wg] IP Addressing policy on personal contact info (kf)

I fully agree with this.  Further this is not a new problem.  Some of us
have been doing broadband always on since 1997 or even before - namely cable
operators.  I have myself raised the problem with the RIPE in 1997.  In
France there is such a thing as unlisted phone numbers which remain private
and unknown.  Further, the RIPE DB is becoming the best spam list in the
world.  So yes, responsability lays with LIR, yes let's clean the DB, yes
respect privacy.

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Michael.Dillon at radianz.com
Envoye : jeudi 14 aout 2003 11:27
A : address-policy-wg at ripe.net
Objet : Re: [address-policy-wg] IP Addressing policy on personal contact
info (kf)


>and I would like to discuss on how we should do with personal contact
>information in the RIPE db.

The db should only contain the contact information of people who are
ready, willing and able to communicate regarding network issues and
who are able to act on that communication.

This means that much of the existing contact information in the db
would disappear and LIRs would formally have the responsibility of
relaying communications to their downstream networks. Some of these
downstream networks MAY still be in the db but the network contacts
MUST agree to be listed and MUST agree to be ready, willing and
able to communicate regarding network issue and MUST be able to
act on that communication.

This would clean most of the useless garbage out of the db, solve
the privacy issues, and focus the LIR's attention on the true
purpose of the db. The RIPE db is not a general purpose telephone
book, it is a contact directory for a specific purpose which is
required by TCP/IP internetworking activity.

There is no point in including contact data for people who are
not ready, willing and able to communicate or who are not able
to take any action. RIPE has a direct relationship with LIRs so
there is the possibility to force them to have someone who is
ready, willing and able to communicate and able to take action.
Some LIRs may choose to force their customers to also provide
such a contact person, but there is nothing wrong if an LIR
chooses to be the direct contact for all of their customers.

--Michael Dillon