[acm-tf] some thoughts on issues raised today
Tobias Knecht tk at abusix.com
Wed Jun 29 16:39:47 CEST 2011
Hello everybody, are there any other thought, concerns, suggestions about the idea of Denis we should discuss? If not I would like to take the next steps and think about how we get these things into a policy formated text. Thanks, Tobias Am 15.06.11 21:49, schrieb Denis Walker: > Dear Colleagues, > > I was thinking about a couple of points made during the discussion today > while on the train home (yes I know I should get a life but I just had > to write it down). In particular the points about (not) introducing a > new NIC hdl suffix (-abuse) and the need to create multiple ROLE objects > with duplicated data for small organisations. An idea came to mind that > addresses both these issues, fits even better within our current data > model and is extensible. > > Suppose we introduce a new attribute to the ROLE object: > role-type: [mandatory] [multiple] [] > > and allow this initially to take one of three values: > > STANDARD All the current ROLE objects would fit with this type > ABUSE For ROLE objects holding abuse contact data > IRT For ROLE objects holding IRT contact data > > We then add two new contact attributes "abuse-c:" and "irt-c:" > (replacing "mnt-irt:"). These can only reference ABUSE and IRT ROLE > object types respectively. All role based contact information is now > held in the one object type, ROLE. All references to contact details are > from the same type of attribute, "xxx-c:". There is no need for a new > NIC hdl suffix. Existing ROLE objects with their current NIC hdls can be > used for any of these roles. There is no need for a separate IRT object > referenced by a maintainer like attribute. The ROLE object with > "role-type: IRT" and referenced by an "irt-c:" replaces it. > > The syntax for the ROLE object then becomes a superset of all the > attributes needed for each of these roles. All these attributes can be > defined as OPTIONAL by syntax. Their use in each type can be defined by > business rules as one of: > > REQUIRED - must have > ALLOWED - can have > NOT ALLOWED - can't have > > Suppose we have the following superset of optional attributes for all > role types: > > abuse-mailbox: > e-mail: > phone: > irc: > url: > im: > signature: > encryption: > irt-nfy: > > One example set of business rules could be: > > STANDARD ROLE > > REQUIRED > e-mail: > ALLOWED > phone: > NOT ALLOWED > abuse-mailbox: > irc: > url: > im: > signature: > encryption: > irt-nfy: > > ABUSE ROLE > > REQUIRED > abuse-mailbox: > ALLOWED > phone: > e-mail: > irc: > url: > im: > NOT ALLOWED > signature: > encryption: > irt-nfy: > > IRT ROLE > > REQUIRED > e-mail: > signature: > encryption: > ALLOWED > phone: > irt-nfy: > NOT ALLOWED > abuse-mailbox: > irc: > url: > im: > > Filtering and access control limits (ACL) could also apply differently > to the different role types. For STANDARD and IRT ROLE objects query > filtering (negated with the -B flag) could apply to all attributes > containing an email address (as it does now). ACL will apply to the > number of these role types a user queries. For the ABUSE ROLE objects > filtering should only apply to database management attributes like > "notify:" and "changed:". The operational specific attributes like > "abuse-mailbox:" and "e-mail:" will not be filtered. Also no ACL will > apply to queries for these role types. > > By allowing "role-type:" to be a multiple attribute, one ROLE object can > take on more than one role. But with the caveat that the least > restrictive rules for a role type will apply. So for a small company > with only one set of people who do everything, one ROLE object can be > defined as both STANDARD and ABUSE. The business rules will be a > composite of these two role types. No ACL will apply to queries for this > ROLE object as it is an ABUSE role type, even though it is also a > STANDARD role type. It becomes a user choice between convenience and > control. > > To summarise, one object type can be used to define any type of contact > role. We currently have a need for three types. Any new type can be > added in the future by defining a new type value. Business rules can > define the arrangement of attributes per type from a superset of > attributes, including any new ones added later. All contacts should be > referenced by attributes of the format "xxx-c:" and again business rules > can restrict the type of role these attributes can reference. > > I hope this provides some helpful thoughts on these two issues and also > takes another step in the direction of simplifying the data model. > > cheers > denis > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 267 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/acm-tf/attachments/20110629/7c7a6556/attachment.sig>
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