[acm-tf] Poster on theory of abuse contact management, was Date and time next ACM-TF meeting

Hi again,

> A third thing is to maintain this information.  In order for a Sender
> to confidently send a report to a Receiver, someone has to collect
> assessments about their trustworthiness, so that they can reliably
> understand each other.

Imho way to complicated and impossible.

The receiver is intelligent enough to decide on his own if he wants to
trust the report coming from a complainant or not. If he does he can
handle it, if he does not he can delete it. We should not start and talk
about a classification of trustworthiness.

This Taskforce has to find a way on how we want RIPE members to publish
abuse contact information. This has nothing to do with any social
interaction or the way how abuse departments handle their reports.

>> One thing about the wiki page. We need to be careful to not mix up user
>> generated feedbackloops about spam and real thread reports about
>> everything + spam.
> 
> Yes, but being careful implies considering them.

That is true, but in this specific case I do not see any connection
between both.

>> Feedbackloops are a completely different ecosystem. They are usually on
>> subscription only and it's only about spam.
> 
> Currently it is like so.  However, I counted less than a dozen of
> those FBLs, all of which are located in North America.

Right, this is just a legal problem in Europe. Maybe there will be
feedbackloops that do not need subscription in future, which is in my
definition not a feedbackloop anymore, it is "global reporting".

I think we can agree that everybody who wants to report abusive behavior
and does not have a direct source for the abuse contact (as it is
handled with todays feedbackloops by subscription) needs a source to
find the abuse contact.

>> Real thread reports cover much more than spam and are usually not
>> subscription based.
> 
> Some kind of FBL may also be not subscription based.

Right. The abusix "global reporting" is not subscription based. The
Deutsche Telekom reporting is not, the TDC repoting is not. But we
usually do not call it feedbackloops. Or is your definition of a
feedbackloop just reporting abusive behavior back to its source?

If that is the way we are talking different directions just by not
having the same definition. :-)





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